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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 04:24 AM UTC
Putting together both a henshel and porche turret tanks and want knoe if either one came with both zimmerit and ambush camo?
Tojo72
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 04:37 AM UTC
The earlier Herschel models came with Zimm,later models had no zimm and some at Battle of Bulge had Ambush camo.

I believe all Porsche models had zimm.

Not 100% sure,but couldn’t find pics of the zimm and ambush combo
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 04:59 AM UTC
Thanks for your reply , can't seem to find one with botn camo and zimmerit
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 06:28 AM UTC
The period where zimmerit and Hinterhalt-Tarnung with the contrasting spots--which I believe is what you're asking about-- overlapped was actually very short; roughly three weeks. Ambush pattern came with and without spots. The spotted version was a short-run project as it took longer to apply and the necessary time was not workable under the needs of the combat fronts. The Bengals you see with the green and red-brown over yellow are still technically ambush pattern. Very few vehicles got the spot version, and some of the factories didn't produce Panthers or Bengals until after that camo was discontinued and so never got it.

And the Porsche Tiger II was never given a contract and thus was not produced. All the Tiger IIs were produced by Henschel (who did win the contract) and the turrets were produced by Krupp. The turret you associate with the "Porsche" Tiger II was produced by Krupp prematurely as it was believed Porsche's design would be selected, and those were applied to the first batch of Henschel vehicles to avoid wasting them. Porsche had nothing to do with their design.

To be accurate, they are actually the "pre-production" and "production" turrets. There were only fifty of those vehicles completed, well before the ambush camo you know and love was a thing.
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 07:22 AM UTC
Thanks, appreciate the info
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