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Posted: Monday, February 16, 2004 - 11:23 PM UTC
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That means GI's Op Corregidor must put through!!! 
Jepot made mention that this year's summer isn't a good time for Op Corregidor because of the elections. Since IPMS-BAC is planning a trip to The Rock as well, I was thinking of joining them. Hopefully, they schedule it next year when everything is more-or-less stable, security-wise that is.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 03:41 PM UTC
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I see...
I thought those "blood stains" looked to faint... 
I bet there's still a lot to be found....Naku-curious din ako dun sa cliff na kung saan daw nagtatalon yung mga Hapon nung nire-reclaim na ng America yung "The Rock"....
Yung sandbags na nakalagay around the entrance of Malinta Tunnel, akala ko authentic WW2 tlga...Cemented na cya... Syang....
Yung tour kse nmin, day time lng...Sabi daw mas masaya kpag overnight...Napakarami pang mapupuntahan...
We didn't have the chance to see all 23 batteries..Yung iba daw kse, hnde na mate-trek ng bus..Lalakarin lang daw...
True there were a few Japanese soldiers who lept to their death to escape American heavy fire but not as overblown by the tour guies. The term "Suicide Cliff" is a myth and t should be labeled as "Banzai Point". It was located at Wheeler Point and this happened when Japanese soldiers from Cheney Ravine tried to made a counter attack at night and were ambushed by US Paratroopers at Wheeler point. A lot of them were gunned down and in the morning the area was littered with dead Japanese corpses. In order to prevent decay and foul stench, the bodies were bulldozed over the cliff. I can pinpoint to you the exact spot.
Not all 23 batteries remain and some dont have guns anymore (just emplacements). I have been to each and every one including a few of the ones for the land defense ones that datre back in the early 20s. and the AA batteries (this includes the other island forts as well) You really have to chop through jungle thicket and be prepared to be bruised.
I stay there for a week for the last 5 years and still find a lot of stuff...
FWIW,
El Jefe
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Posted: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 06:48 PM UTC
The Japs didn't commit suicide, then?
And another thing....I remember watching a video wherein some Japanese soldiers hid themselves in a trench, covered it up and waited for days when American troops were reclamining the island. Then when there were American GI's above them, they blew themselves up...Sa Corregidor ba yun?
Ang dami ko ng questions...^__^ Thank you for continuing to answer them....Bitin kse tlga ako dun sa tour nmin....
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Posted: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 10:35 PM UTC
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The Japs didn't commit suicide, then?
And another thing....I remember watching a video wherein some Japanese soldiers hid themselves in a trench, covered it up and waited for days when American troops were reclamining the island. Then when there were American GI's above them, they blew themselves up...Sa Corregidor ba yun?
Ang dami ko ng questions...^__^ Thank you for continuing to answer them....Bitin kse tlga ako dun sa tour nmin....
DO you want to travel again? Trip ko rin pumunta ko doon one of these days. Sama ka!
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Posted: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 12:27 AM UTC
LW: If you're interested, I can lend you two of my Corregidor books. Check the Books Thread in this forum for their titles. I think I posted a short review on these two books. Send me an SMS (ask SR for my number) or PM so we can arrange a meet, if possible, this Saturday. My only condition is you take care of the books and return them when you're done.
Alternatively, check
corregidor.org for more info.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 12:31 AM UTC
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LW: If you're interested, I can lend you two of my Corregidor books. Check the Books Thread in this forum for their titles. I think I posted a short review on these two books. Send me an SMS (ask SR for my number) or PM so we can arrange a meet, if possible, this Saturday. My only condition is you take care of the books and return them when you're done.
Alternatively, check corregidor.org for more info.
I believe he doesn't have a cel phone yet. I'll call him up to join us. I'll be his contact until Fri night if he will join us.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 12:38 AM UTC
Thanks for volunteering SR. :-) I can drive you two to LP as well after the meet. That'll force me to take Coastal Road and not the Skyway/SLEX (which I end up taking the Filinvest exit, and you all know what's at Filinvest now, right? #:-) ) Also, it'll force me to drive at 100kph rather than 130kph as on the Skyway/SLEX #:-)
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Posted: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 02:51 PM UTC
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LW: If you're interested, I can lend you two of my Corregidor books. Check the Books Thread in this forum for their titles. I think I posted a short review on these two books. Send me an SMS (ask SR for my number) or PM so we can arrange a meet, if possible, this Saturday. My only condition is you take care of the books and return them when you're done.
Alternatively, check corregidor.org for more info.
Really? You'll lend me your books?
THANK YOU! THANKS YOU! THANK YOU! ^____^
I'll try to move all activities this Saturday so I can join up..^__^
I rpomise to take good care of it!
I'll be sure not to let even a single (insert collective noun here) of dust near your books!
Thank You talaga!
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 02:26 AM UTC
One of the biggest explosions that occured in Corregidor was when the Japanese blew up the Navy Intercept Tunnel near the tail end of the island. It killed a number of US soldiers and it threw an M4 sherman 300 feet away. The Sherman was "Murder, Inc." (iirc) and only one of the crew survived. All Japanese troops inside perished.
BTW, what book titles of Corregidor are you refering too?
As for
www.corregidor.org, I know the website owner and he is a good friend of mine. He was just here a few days ago. A number of information on his website came from me.
fwiw
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 11:27 AM UTC
El Jefe - do check the Books Thread for the titles. Forgot actually. One books is all about the Rock a wee bit before and mostly during the occupation, while the other books is more on the liberation.
Another big explosion that I remember was not on Corregidor itself but on Ft. Drum. This occured when the Japanese still held that island. To neutralize them, a USN DD IIRC pumped gasoline or diesel in it - hundreds if not thousands of gallons of the fuel - in one of the air vents, then it was lit up. The explosion was so great the main access hatch (which was 20 tons I think or 2 tons, not sure) flew skyhigh.
IIRC, the Heritage Battalion was supposed to have a reunion last month, a two-week visit at Corregidor and outlying areas with volunteers and veterans. Haven't checked the site recently to see if they did push through with that one.
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 04:18 PM UTC
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Another big explosion that I remember was not on Corregidor itself but on Ft. Drum. This occured when the Japanese still held that island. To neutralize them, a USN DD IIRC pumped gasoline or diesel in it - hundreds if not thousands of gallons of the fuel - in one of the air vents, then it was lit up. The explosion was so great the main access hatch (which was 20 tons I think or 2 tons, not sure) flew skyhigh.
IIRC, the Heritage Battalion was supposed to have a reunion last month, a two-week visit at Corregidor and outlying areas with volunteers and veterans. Haven't checked the site recently to see if they did push through with that one.
I have that on documentary video. The metal plate that flew on the air was not a hatch but a piece of the metal casing of one of the 6-inch batteries (either Roberts or MacCrae). Inside were 65 sailors from the sunken Japanese battleship Musashi and it took a full three (3) days after the explosion before the US troops could enter the for. (parang oven).
Only the website owner (Paul Whitman) and a few others came back to the Rock to commemorate the liberation of the island. No vets this time. CFI and DOT would rathter celebrate the fall of 1942 rather than the retaking of 45.
Two of the best coast artillery historians in the world (good American friends of mine) are there right now. I just brought them to the docks this morning. Am not sure if I can join them this week as I still have an ongoing project to finish.
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 10:58 PM UTC
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I have that on documentary video. The metal plate that flew on the air was not a hatch but a piece of the metal casing of one of the 6-inch batteries (either Roberts or MacCrae). Inside were 65 sailors from the sunken Japanese battleship Musashi and it took a full three (3) days after the explosion before the US troops could enter the for. (parang oven).
COOL! Video! Any chance that can be transferred to VCD if it's still in VHS? I can imagine the effects of the explosion - I'd be surprised if they found any remains after the explosion.
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CFI and DOT would rathter celebrate the fall of 1942 rather than the retaking of 45.
What a defeatist attitude. Sigh.
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Two of the best coast artillery historians in the world (good American friends of mine) are there right now. I just brought them to the docks this morning. Am not sure if I can join them this week as I still have an ongoing project to finish.
Damn! Do get their email! I know some people stateside that are very interested in coastal artillery. Can you post their names?
BTW, can we (and I mean IPMS-Phils [BAC] and non-members) have a three-day camping trip at Corregidor next year, Summer '05, with the highlight being a visit of Ft. Drum and Carballo Island? Want me to BTT the old Operation Corregidor thread?
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2004 - 12:23 AM UTC
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BTW, can we (and I mean IPMS-Phils [BAC] and non-members) have a three-day camping trip at Corregidor next year, Summer '05, with the highlight being a visit of Ft. Drum and Carballo Island? Want me to BTT the old Operation Corregidor thread?
Great Idea! I would like to join that!
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