_GOTOBOTTOM
 Community Forum: Filipino Modelers Phorum
Want to meet up with modelers in your country or region? This is the place.
In Progress Pic
shonen_red
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: February 20, 2003
entire network: 5,762 Posts
KitMaker Network: 2,610 Posts
Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 02:41 AM UTC
My best model yet



Wahehehe. Sana ganyan yung next projects ko.

Anyways, let's get serious

Hasegawa F-16C "Wolf Pack"


Dragon M1A1HA Abrams

Tamiya Honda Fit

Anyways, I may be needing help/advice. Thanks guys!
buck
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: November 12, 2003
entire network: 437 Posts
KitMaker Network: 0 Posts
Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 02:51 AM UTC
For a while there you had me goin. hehehe.

Lookin great so far, Shonen. I like the color of that Honda. Keep em photos comin'.

GIBeregovoy
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: May 31, 2002
entire network: 1,612 Posts
KitMaker Network: 1,129 Posts
Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 11:22 AM UTC
Nice paint job on the Honda. Is this acrylic or enamel Metallic Blue? The tail lights - you painted this inside or outside?
LaTtEX
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: May 13, 2003
entire network: 292 Posts
KitMaker Network: 0 Posts
Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 05:53 PM UTC
Anong scale yung f16? 1:48?
shonen_red
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: February 20, 2003
entire network: 5,762 Posts
KitMaker Network: 2,610 Posts
Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 07:27 PM UTC
GI, yung Fit is painted with Tamiya Mettalic Blue (spray paint). Yung tailights were molded in silver tapos yung red part is molded into clear red. If you ever paint on clear parrts, I suggest you do it inside. (1) smooth finish. (2) di halatang pininturahan kapag natuyo.

LaTtEX, The Hase F-16 is in 1/48
Fritz
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: March 17, 2003
entire network: 495 Posts
KitMaker Network: 0 Posts
Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 08:01 PM UTC
More pics! More pics! You are very good in painting reeeaaaalllyyyyy small details. Love the interior of the Abrams.

BTW, can you show us some pics of those accursed indy tracks? because as much as you don't like it, Indy tracks are my preference. :-) :-) :-) No matter how annoying or how hard they are, I don't care as long as I get rid of that flimsy, rubbery, toyish look that those horrible vinyl tracks give to my models. Especially those vinyl tracks on the King Tiger.
GIBeregovoy
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: May 31, 2002
entire network: 1,612 Posts
KitMaker Network: 1,129 Posts
Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 08:10 PM UTC
Ah, so they are already molded into their colors already, the tail lights, I mean.

And here I thought you put your airbrush to good use with the metallic blue finish hehehe Have you tried your new AB already?
shonen_red
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: February 20, 2003
entire network: 5,762 Posts
KitMaker Network: 2,610 Posts
Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 08:40 PM UTC
GI, sad to say, for the mettalic blue, I use a spray can. Yep, I have a good use on my Badger 175. I've used it on painting my Abrams and Sea Harrier. How ever, I dunno what happened but I've messed up my M2A2 ODS Take a look

Help me with this one ok? I've used the same technique with my previous paint job on my M1A1HA. I've added some washing using Tamiya Enamel Flat Brown. Again it was a mess.

Fritz, di ko pa dinedetail masyado. Pininturahan ko lang muna ng gloss black. (Gloss Black + Matt Finish = Flat Black). Inuubos ko lang yung de lata kong black. Try ko ipost mamaya kapag dumating na dad ko. I need his cam.


Quoted Text

More pics! More pics! You are very good in painting reeeaaaalllyyyyy small details. Love the interior of the Abrams



Nah not much. Nanginginig pa nga kamay ko noon eh. I've used dental drill bits and toothpicks to detail it out. May lagpas-lagpas pa yung iba. Still need more practice.

Thanks for the complement guys!
GIBeregovoy
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: May 31, 2002
entire network: 1,612 Posts
KitMaker Network: 1,129 Posts
Posted: Friday, January 02, 2004 - 12:54 AM UTC
I can't exactly see your problem. You mean the smudges caused by the wash? From the pictures, I don't see much of a problem - looks like oil stains and such. However, if you really don't like it, just wipe it off with a Q-tip soaked with thinner.

Query BTW on the wash and base coat - is the wash enamel and the base coat lacquer? If they're both the same, and you didn't seal the base coat - i.e., no clear coat at all - then you have a bit of a problem removing the excess wash. But looking at it, I reckon you gave the base coat a clear coat already.

Anyway, if you don't like it, just wipe the wash off and start all over. Or, alternatively, excess wash can be toned down by drybrushing (or was it the other way around ), plus a final flat clear coat over it would also tone down the weathering.)
shonen_red
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: February 20, 2003
entire network: 5,762 Posts
KitMaker Network: 2,610 Posts
Posted: Friday, January 02, 2004 - 01:26 AM UTC
Thanks GI, I guess I have to redo the painting - Strip all of them. Di ko pa sya na-seal ng coat nung nilagyan ko nang wash. Ganito yung ginawa ko.

1. AB with Tamiya Enamel Desert Yellow
2. Wash with Tamiya Enamel Flat Brown

Medyo makintab sya dahil sa medyo basa pa yung thinner. Luckily, yung side armors lang ang nilagyan ko nang wash. Aayusin ko na lang after I get another thinner kasi naubos na.
Fritz
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: March 17, 2003
entire network: 495 Posts
KitMaker Network: 0 Posts
Posted: Friday, January 02, 2004 - 02:51 AM UTC

Quoted Text

1. AB with Tamiya Enamel Desert Yellow
2. Wash with Tamiya Enamel Flat Brown


AHA! that's the problem! (I already posted though on your thread in the Homepage)
NEVER EVER use an enamel wash on an enamel base & I mean NEVER (except in figures
which I do all the time, hehehehehe #:-) #:-) #:-) ).
shonen_red
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: February 20, 2003
entire network: 5,762 Posts
KitMaker Network: 2,610 Posts
Posted: Friday, January 02, 2004 - 02:56 AM UTC
Fritz, can you help me give a wash on my pilot? I painted it overall with German Grey (enamel), visor is with black, gloves and shoes in flat black. How will I wash it?
shonen_red
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: February 20, 2003
entire network: 5,762 Posts
KitMaker Network: 2,610 Posts
Posted: Friday, January 02, 2004 - 05:56 PM UTC
Here's more of my progress pic

Night Attack AV-8B and Pilot figs (1/72)

Indy Tracks of M1A1HA and Upper Hull Pics

EDS - Extreme Detailing Syndrome - caused by lack of thinner to complete a model and instead focus on itsy-bitsy detailing on cockpit controls and interior mechanisms throught the use of primitive equipment such as sharpened toothpicks, screws, pins and drill bit heads. #:-) #:-)
GIBeregovoy
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: May 31, 2002
entire network: 1,612 Posts
KitMaker Network: 1,129 Posts
Posted: Friday, January 02, 2004 - 07:37 PM UTC
Ah... so you placed a wash over a non-sealed (i.e. no clear coat) over the enamel base coat. I see...

You should've sealed the paint first before wash. Seal it with clear gloss. That way, the wash will flow much better - and easier to remove thanks to the smooth surface.

But BEFORE that, apply decals to the clear gloss coated base coat, then clear coat again with gloss to seal in the decals, then wash, then wipe off excess wash, then flat coat, then drybrush.

BTW, my wash consists of used enamel thinner. That way, I don't throw the used thinner to the sink - I re-use it as a wash. Pretty good and environmentally friendly. :-)

On the indy tracks of your M1, do read the feature article at the Features page of this site on how to install indy tracks with ease.
Fritz
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: March 17, 2003
entire network: 495 Posts
KitMaker Network: 0 Posts
Posted: Friday, January 02, 2004 - 07:41 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Fritz, can you help me give a wash on my pilot? I painted it overall with German Grey (enamel), visor is with black, gloves and shoes in flat black. How will I wash it?


For a figure that small you better do this:
1) cut a length of sprue
2) flatten on end & sharpen the other
3) glue the flat end under one of the shoes (superglue will do since it will snap off easily.....at least in my case ) & drive the sharp end into a piece of styrofoam. Voila! there's your mount.
4) Accdg. to your colors, the best wash would be a blackwash. Use the same formulation you made just use black. Apply this to the non-black parts (it's useless in the black parts). Apply in a fast & light way so the base would not be instantly removed. Make sure your brush is loaded.
5) Wait to dry for at least 4 hrs (overnight would be a lot better).
6) Now here comes the fun part........DRYBRUSH. Get some of the basecoat & drybrush on the gray parts. Drybrush another 2 lighter shades & pure white, pure white being the LIGHTEST drybrush.
7) Get some German gray & mix with a little black. Drybrush this on the black parts.
8) Leave the Visor as is, no wash, no drybrush. (It's gloss paint so why bother?)

Your Indy tracks are nice! #:-) #:-) Just needs some patience since the joints are not so friendly as WWII tracks joints.
Again about the Harrier..............you rreeeeaaaaaallllllllyyyyyyyy like to paint sssmmmmaaaaallll details! #:-) #:-) #:-) #:-)
shonen_red
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: February 20, 2003
entire network: 5,762 Posts
KitMaker Network: 2,610 Posts
Posted: Friday, January 02, 2004 - 07:46 PM UTC
Thanks Fritz! Will try that soon as I get a thinner.


Quoted Text

Again about the Harrier..............you rreeeeaaaaaallllllllyyyyyyyy like to paint sssmmmmaaaaallll details!



That's what happens when you do not have a thinner to load into your AB to paint the body of a much larger kit.
shonen_red
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: February 20, 2003
entire network: 5,762 Posts
KitMaker Network: 2,610 Posts
Posted: Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 11:04 PM UTC
I have just redo my M2A2. I stripped all the paint and AB again. To my surprise, it has gotten worse ! Now the paint looks more like heavy rainfall on the kit! It could be the paint cause it's too old and I think it is very thin. Oh well, off to a hobby shop to get fresh paint and strip it all over again
GIBeregovoy
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: May 31, 2002
entire network: 1,612 Posts
KitMaker Network: 1,129 Posts
Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 01:40 AM UTC
SR: If you're really serious in stripping the paint, try dipping your model in anti-freeze. Jeepney did that with his Humvee IIRC. Yes, some parts were broken off, but they were repaired after the anti-freeze bath. Now, if only he can post again what exactly he did to remove the paint.

Alternatively, there's a feature on this site that talks about stripping paint - and if I'm not mistaken, Jeepney probably took the anti-freeze method from that feature.
shonen_red
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: February 20, 2003
entire network: 5,762 Posts
KitMaker Network: 2,610 Posts
Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 02:01 AM UTC
Actually, there's no problem with paint stripping. I do it all the time with my previous models. Yep, my Sea Harrier was stripped and then repainted again as also with my F-22 and my unfinished F/A-18E. I guess it's the consistency of paint = too much thinner I guess.
jomz
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: June 08, 2003
entire network: 543 Posts
KitMaker Network: 0 Posts
Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 07:28 AM UTC
cris does his stripping(nang paint ha) IIRC with brake fluid.
GIBeregovoy
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: May 31, 2002
entire network: 1,612 Posts
KitMaker Network: 1,129 Posts
Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 10:20 AM UTC
Ayun! Brake fluid pala, hindi anti-freeze (no wonder my previous post sounded incorrect).
crismag
Visit this Community
Luzon, Philippines
Member Since: July 01, 2002
entire network: 280 Posts
KitMaker Network: 0 Posts
Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 02:23 PM UTC
yep brake fluid really works well in paint stripping. it doesnt hurt the plastic done this method on my metallic green skyline
Wanze
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: December 02, 2003
entire network: 277 Posts
KitMaker Network: 0 Posts
Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 06:53 PM UTC
Hi guys,

Thanks for the tip on the brake fluid paint stripper. I have a project that definitely needs stripping. Been on the shelf for two years, I think I will try it out.

Do you actually dip the model in brake fluid or just brush it on and stuff?

Thanks again
GIBeregovoy
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: May 31, 2002
entire network: 1,612 Posts
KitMaker Network: 1,129 Posts
Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 10:31 PM UTC
Wanze: I dunno how Cris does his, but if memory serves me right, Jeepney left his Humvee in a bowl of brake fluid and (memory very vague now here) left everything in the freezer. The next day, the paint is gone.
shonen_red
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: February 20, 2003
entire network: 5,762 Posts
KitMaker Network: 2,610 Posts
Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 11:05 PM UTC
I did mine using a toothbrush and thinner. Well, as for me it worked so far. Will try brake fluid and toothbrush this weekend.
 _GOTOTOP