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retiredyank
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Posted: Sunday, July 28, 2013 - 11:26 AM UTC
When I search for something, on Kitmaker, it gives me a slew of Google search results. The Kitmaker results are to "subscribe" to a topic, not a direct link? Am I doing something wrong or is this the new search function?
Grumpyoldman
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Posted: Monday, July 29, 2013 - 12:32 AM UTC
I don't know Matt.
I just did a search of your name on the kitmaker search, and it came up with a list of the forums you posted in, clicking on that brought me right to the thread you posted in.

Tried it on IE and Opera.
retiredyank
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Posted: Monday, July 29, 2013 - 12:58 AM UTC
I'm using google chrome. I haven't tried searching, for a person.
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Posted: Monday, July 29, 2013 - 01:19 AM UTC
It happened to me when there were no adequate matches for the words I searched.




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Posted: Monday, July 29, 2013 - 04:36 AM UTC
The absence of a good in-house search function is the only drawback to this site.
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Posted: Monday, July 29, 2013 - 06:49 AM UTC
I am not really sure what you mean regarding the 'subscribe to topic' part, but what I have noted using Google's site specific search lately is that only the first search you do above is going to list pages only from the site you were on. Doing another search on that page then opens it up to all pages on the net. This is new behavior I believe.

What keywords are you searching? I have always found that Google does a pretty good job finding subjects, etc. If you guys think I can write (or even the folks at any of the top forum software firms out there) better search algorithm systems/code than Google... well you are mistaken.

Cheers,
Jim
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Posted: Monday, July 29, 2013 - 07:20 AM UTC
maybe you think so, but many, many forums have a native search component, whereby I can can search by user, topic and other site specifics, and so on,without finding myself in east bumstead or worse.

searching this forum is dammed annoying, an you will forgive me, sir. for your information.
Even "my own posts" is abreviated and unreliable.
sorry again, sir, to report negative results, sir.

retiredyank
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Posted: Monday, July 29, 2013 - 09:35 AM UTC

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I am not really sure what you mean regarding the 'subscribe to topic' part, but what I have noted using Google's site specific search lately is that only the first search you do above is going to list pages only from the site you were on. Doing another search on that page then opens it up to all pages on the net. This is new behavior I believe.

What keywords are you searching? I have always found that Google does a pretty good job finding subjects, etc. If you guys think I can write (or even the folks at any of the top forum software firms out there) better search algorithm systems/code than Google... well you are mistaken.

Cheers,
Jim



I searched for other key words, after the initial search(while the first results were posted). From what you have said, this may be the cause.
staff_Jim
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Posted: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 07:08 AM UTC

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maybe you think so, but many, many forums have a native search component, whereby I can can search by user, topic and other site specifics, and so on,without finding myself in east bumstead or worse.

searching this forum is dammed annoying, an you will forgive me, sir. for your information.
Even "my own posts" is abreviated and unreliable.
sorry again, sir, to report negative results, sir.




Indeed this forum has that as well. It's just not that easy to find (by intention). You have to understand a lot about database overhead to really get into this conversation from a technical standpoint, but suffice to say that with as large as our database is, allowing easy access to do real-time searches ad infinitum is not a good thing. It's just too database intensive. That is why Google and other search engines use search caching and 'indexes' to speed up searching and even allow them to do what they do (so well).

I can appreciate your frustration though and am not trying to say the Google search works perfectly. It's just the best we can offer at this time.

Thanks,
Jim
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Posted: Thursday, August 01, 2013 - 01:17 PM UTC

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maybe you think so, but many, many forums have a native search component, whereby I can can search by user, topic and other site specifics, and so on,without finding myself in east bumstead or worse.

searching this forum is dammed annoying, an you will forgive me, sir. for your information.
Even "my own posts" is abreviated and unreliable.
sorry again, sir, to report negative results, sir.



I have no problem finding posts, if I know the thread title. It is more of a broad search, than for something like a single thread. I do have a problem with what order they appear to be listed in.
I also understand that having a "real time" search would cause possible crashes.
I do have some experience creating a digital database. The amount of information, for this site would be daunting.
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