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1/24 Leyland Olympian D/Decker Bus
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Posted: Friday, July 16, 2010 - 12:19 PM UTC
Hi folks

Just thought I would post some pics up of my 1/24 Leyland Olympian bus I am working on. I still have a long way to go with it but I did see another builder's technique for building his Russian single decker bus that I need to study in great detail to try and master the curves.

































Hope ya like

Nige
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Posted: Friday, July 16, 2010 - 04:34 PM UTC
Hi Nige,
Impressive start to an unusal subject (especially in 1/24).
Any compound curves you should warm up ya vac-machine (go on I know you want to ).
Best of luck with the rest of the build.

Roger.
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Posted: Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 05:06 AM UTC
Hey, too cool!!!!!! Nice start up and on an Italeri truck frame and wheels too. My rescue bodied fire wagon has compound curves on the roof and ends, I used 1/4" square stock on each corner and sanded them round then rounded the corners. Problem there is it makes those areas thick on the inside so using a dremel to remove that or leaving it is your only option there. Wish they made triangle stock that big! At the moment I'm building a Mack AP tanker and trailer and need that very same rounded edges again....this time I'm going to take evergreen tube stock and slice it in quarters to glue on each area that needs rounding to keeps thing thinner....trying to build a jig now to hold the tube for length cuts so they're straight. The corner tips will have to be filled and rounded still.
This looks like a neat build...I want to see that interior when done...might motivate me to finally finish my 1/32 G scale bi-level commuter train cars{it's only been 18 years since I started them...who's in a rush?!}
Give me a set of decent line drawings and a pile of plastic and I'm on it...........maybe I should buy that Corgi AEC london bus on ebay, grab the scale ruler and start drawing up some plans.....Hmmmmmmm.......I do have line drawings of a late '60s greyhound scenic cruiser but I like the london busses alittle better - truth be told.
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Posted: Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 05:38 AM UTC
BTW...was just thinking, you got that link for the german modeller's build for those of us who like to admire other peoples techniques....never hurts to have a second opinion on how to try something!
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Posted: Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 07:48 AM UTC

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BTW...was just thinking, you got that link for the german modeller's build for those of us who like to admire other peoples techniques....never hurts to have a second opinion on how to try something!



Hi Bob

http://forum.truckmodelworld.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=1736

Here is that linky to Andrey Myakotkin's Russian Bus build. I was hoping that he would have progressed his further as his work is fantastic and there is so much to learn from his work.

Nige
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Posted: Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 10:53 AM UTC
...and Mr W said "that's mustard"...high...er...praise indeed!
Thanks for that link... and to think I just let my TMW subscription lapse...
Are you going to post your build there too?....maybe he'll call yours mustard too{being a yank I'll just assume that's good}....being on this side of the pond I'll simply says yours looks fantastic.{you guys and your slang! -hehehe- mustard}
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Posted: Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 11:50 AM UTC
Hi Bob

I used to post on TMW for quite a long time but there are one or two individuals who have a funny way of welcoming and encouraging newbies to the forum !!!!!

I am afraid that I disagreed with the manner of some that commented on submissions.

It is not that you have to say everything someone does is great or fantastic, when it needs a bit more thought process. As you will surely be aware there are nutters like that on all forums but there seemed to be more than the norm there. It made for some unpleasent exchanges.

Since the moderators did not take control of those kind of exchanges I decided to vote with my feet including not renewing my subscription to the Magazine.

There are loads of great projects on the TMW site and some great folk too.

I pop in on the odd occasion to check on some there but don't post any longer.

Nige
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Posted: Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 12:10 PM UTC
Great start and progress and thanks for the link
I'm looking for a solution to a bus build as well




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Posted: Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 03:52 PM UTC

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Hi Bob

I used to post on TMW for quite a long time but there are one or two individuals who have a funny way of welcoming and encouraging newbies to the forum !!!!!

As you will surely be aware there are nutters like that on all forums but there seemed to be more than the norm there. It made for some unpleasent exchanges.
Nige



Hmmm...wonder who that might be... .... I myself left a fairly prominent semi truck forum long ago because of prettymuch the very same thing{right Roger - } and haven't looked back with any dismay...I'm happy where I'm at, with the company I keep here, and the excellent projects you and alot of other folks here do... and at $87 a year here, I may forgo TMW.

Hey, you got a pic{s} of the troublesome area{s} you need to figure out? I'm sure we can git-er-done{larry the cable guy there}.
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Posted: Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 04:29 AM UTC
It's a future project that I haven't actually started yet, besides buying the kits that will be involved.

I want to make this:
http://dantrucks.free.fr/5.%20Exotic%20trucks%20from%20far%20away/2006.12.12%20Trucks%20from%20Burma/31%20Very%20very%20beautiful%20bus%20in%20Rangoon.JPG

from these kits:
http://www.hwjapan.com/g_library2/ari/ari41181.jpg

http://www.nexternal.com/sbm/images/ita6233.jpg

but it's a project for someday later...




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Posted: Monday, July 19, 2010 - 09:03 PM UTC

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I myself left a fairly prominent semi truck forum long ago because of prettymuch the very same thing{right Roger - } and haven't looked back with any dismay...I'm happy where I'm at, with the company I keep here, and the excellent projects you and alot of other folks here do... and at $87 a year here, I may forgo TMW.


Bob,
At least you had the pleasure of walking away , I do recall being banned from said site no biggie to me, as you say plenty of fine projects going on here.

Anywho, back to Nige's bus - is this rear or mid engine mounting ? and what's the intended livery going to be ?.
May your knifes stay sharp and the glue stick in the right places.

Roger.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 06:40 AM UTC
Hi Casper

I am hoping to have a first bus livery on this and it is a rear engine bus.

I have mislayed some of my reference material for this and will have to trawl through the shed yet again.

I have got a tub of builders plaster setting to try and do an experiment with the Vac Former that is sitting in the shed. Am sorely tempted to splash out on the 100 or so quid for the reducer to use A4 plastic instead of A3.

Any one got a Clarks Vac Former A4 reducer plate going spare.

Nige
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Posted: Friday, July 23, 2010 - 04:28 AM UTC

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It's a future project that I haven't actually started yet, besides buying the kits that will be involved.

I want to make this:
http://dantrucks.free.fr/5.%20Exotic%20trucks%20from%20far%20away/2006.12.12%20Trucks%20from%20Burma/31%20Very%20very%20beautiful%20bus%20in%20Rangoon.JPG

from these kits:
http://www.hwjapan.com/g_library2/ari/ari41181.jpg



Here is a 1/32 MASH bus Shane McKay built and showed off over at Missing-Lynx. He used the 1/32 Arii Bonnet Bus as a base and swapped out the front w/a 1/25th 50's Ford pickup front clip. It came out pretty nice.



More at Missing-Lynx.

Nige, yours is coming along great. I have seen the 1/32 modern Japanese buses on eBay and thought they would be a great project for a modern combat dio in the Middle East or something. They would look pretty cool w/an Abrams next to a burnt out one. Maybe some day.
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Posted: Friday, July 23, 2010 - 07:50 AM UTC

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I have got a tub of builders plaster setting to try and do an experiment with the Vac Former that is sitting in the shed.

Nige



I have been in the shed each day to check if the plaster is dry yet and it is still mushy. I suppose the longer I leave it the better chance I have of it being usable to carve on. I must remember to leave the thickness of the plastic so that it fits.

That is if the bloody plaster dries.

If this works I will maybe sit up at the caravan and slowly carve the details of the front of the bus. Must remember to find my references.

Will also be taking up the DAF DROPS to see if I can work on that too.

Nige
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Posted: Friday, July 23, 2010 - 11:36 AM UTC
Usually the bigger the batch of plaster, the longer it'll take to set up....add humidity and add some extra time as well.
Maybe a layer of clay over a wooden base next time...
I've used the green floral foamish clay once for making an F-9 locomotive nose over...worked out well...
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Posted: Friday, July 23, 2010 - 01:08 PM UTC
I prefer using Basswood for carving blanks to vac-form over. It is soft enough to carve with hand tools, yet hard enough to sand smooth and holds details well.
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Posted: Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 05:52 AM UTC

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Here is a 1/32 MASH bus Shane McKay built and showed off over at Missing-Lynx. He used the 1/32 Arii Bonnet Bus as a base and swapped out the front w/a 1/25th 50's Ford pickup front clip. It came out pretty nice.

More at Missing-Lynx.

Nige, yours is coming along great. I have seen the 1/32 modern Japanese buses on eBay and thought they would be a great project for a modern combat dio in the Middle East or something. They would look pretty cool w/an Abrams next to a burnt out one. Maybe some day.



Thanks for the link, HeavyA. That's an interesting project

Nige, I'm watching how to make those curves.




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Posted: Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 03:31 AM UTC
Nige,

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I need to study in great detail to try and master the curves


By this I'm assuming you are referring to the roof and 4 corners posts !, have never used plaster on a buck so let us know how it turns out (about the only thing I would suggest is to use silicone spray as a release agent and allow the formed plastic to fully cool before trying to remove from the buck (risk deformation otherwise ).
My personal favourite for bucks/plugs/master-patterns is MDF, easy to work with basic tools and easy to get a good finish.
If I was to attempt something like that i'd probably build a retangular box (18mm MDF with maybe a couple of internal supports) with the sides and ends angled at whatever degree was needed, then it would just require the roof curvature sanded and rounding the corners (just my thoughts).
Hope the builds are going well.

Roger.
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Posted: Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 07:40 AM UTC
Hi Roger

The plaster is still not set hard yet and there is still the risk that it all goes tits up at the pressing out of the tub or at the carving stage. I also only have one plaster section sized enough to try out on the front of the bus.

So plan B will be the mdf. I have some mdf left over from house projects so I will chop some on my table saw for top front and back and take them up with me too.

Thanks for the tips as usual. Hope your projects are coming on well too.

Nige

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Posted: Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 09:11 AM UTC
On thinking how it was going I went to the shed to check on the plaster plug.

Bugger !!!!!!!!!

The plaster has cracked right through under drying process so probably would not stand the carving.

Tub was about an inch thick but only thing I can think of was it was the dross from a batch of one of my plastering jobs in the 1:1 house project and was chucked in the tub at last minute. Was probably already going off.

I don't think I will try that and will consentrate on the mdf option of Casper's.

A well ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, "The best laid plans of mice and men can aften gang a'glee !"

Nige
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Posted: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 - 11:41 AM UTC
Hello there! Going back to the photos... This is a great build, but how do you know what the dimensions and shape of the chassis are? I'm going to start a 1/24 Leyland titan you see! If you know where I can find a diagram or Blu-prints I would be very Greatful!

Rich
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Posted: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 - 11:57 AM UTC

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Hello there! Going back to the photos... This is a great build, but how do you know what the dimensions and shape of the chassis are? I'm going to start a 1/24 Leyland titan you see! If you know where I can find a diagram or Blu-prints I would be very Greatful!

Rich



Hi there Rich

This project has defo been on the backburner for a long while !!!!!!!! I was lucky enough to get scale drawings direct from source that got me on the start !!!!!!!!!!! But like a few of my projects, this took a back step with life, work and family taking priority !!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know where you might find a Leyland Titan drawing set, but if you put a shout out to some of the specialist bus forums or even bus enthusiasts on these forums, it is amazing what you might drag up !!!!!!!!!!

It never ceases to amaze me how far some folks will go out of their way to help you with a project !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry I am not much use in this case !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Will be looking out for your build blog when you get it going though !! Maybe you could give me a shout when it is posted up so I can watch over and get some tips !!!!!!!!!

Merry Xmas

Nige
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