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Modeling in General: Health and Safety
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Chest Pains
shonen_red
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Posted: Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 01:12 AM UTC
I think this is connected with my modeling habits. I am feeling my chest is being crushed and it kinda hurts! I'm too young to die for an age of 17! I still wanna finish my entire diorama concepts (about 50) before I die!

Ok, whenever I paint (spraypaint and airbrush and brushed), I never use a facial mask because I do it in an open area. Also, when brush painting, I sometimes do it in an air-conditioned room. Sometimes, in a not so ventilated room and the thinner is in place so I smell the fumes.

Any help you can give?
Mar-74
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Posted: Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 01:25 AM UTC
go to the doctors thats the only advice i can give you.
ModlrMike
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Posted: Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 01:30 AM UTC
I would agree, see the doctor. Regardless of the final diagnosis, always use respiratory protection when spraying paint. In addition to wearing a mask, you can use a box fan with a furnace filter attached if you don't have a proper fume hood.
shonen_red
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Posted: Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 01:55 AM UTC
I feel quite better now. Maybe because I'm more exposed to airconditioning these days. That may have been some of the cause. I just got out my room and breath in fresh air.
Easy_Co
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Posted: Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 06:24 AM UTC
Dont mess with your health my man, Ive had heart trouble for years now when i was in for my bypass the guy in the next bed was twelve. see your doctor.
Augie
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Posted: Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 07:19 AM UTC
Never, ever fool around with chest pain. Hospital is the best place to go. I've seen 20 years olds who have had numerous heart attacks for various reasons. I'm 45 and I've had 3 in the last 10 years along with the surgeries that go with it. Glad to hear some fresh air helped but still you should never fool around with chest pain, it's not a glorious way to go.
tazz
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Posted: Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 08:02 AM UTC
go to the doctors... and paint out side,,,,
i paint my stuff out side...
and if u live near a cold place like snow in the winter
get a spray booth,,,
iam makeing a spray booth with a pipe leading to the widnow
greatbrit
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Posted: Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 09:02 AM UTC
these guys are right!
age doesnt matter when its your heart
in january ( i was also 17 at the time) i spent a night in hospital with a condition called pericarditis.
this was after a month or two of random stabbing chest pains.
it was caused by an infection of the heart membranes or something, and can be fatal.
at the time i tried to ignore it until my parents dragged me to the doctors.
three months pf antibiotics cured me but it could have progressed if i got my way!

the moral of the story is SEE A DOCTOR

take care


FAUST
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Posted: Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 11:42 AM UTC
Shonen red

I had about the same problem you have when I sprayed my models. I dilute my paints with ordinary Thinner from the DIY shop and I used to spray my models in our shed and as spray booth I used a cardboard box... No ventilation and no respiration thingies...... Result : when I was finished I had this heavy feeling in my chest area and when I lit up a cigaret I had the feeling that my lungs combusted and it started to hurt even more.
I have changed a lot of stuff like building my own spraying booth with a good airfilter in it made of an old vacuum cleaner and I spray 90% of the times outside in our garden and I wear a respiratory mask. Ok you look funny with that thing (friends of me who come by when I`m spraying are always joking that I`m imitating Darth Vader) But I have never the crap with the pain in the chest.
So good ventilation is definately a pro and you definately need that

My 2 cents

Machu
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Posted: Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 12:03 PM UTC
Hmm...I have had chest pains after long modeling sessions. Don't do any of it in your room and don't spend too much time at once around the fumes...and don't try smoking a cigarette
yagdpanzer
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Posted: Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 01:12 PM UTC
Don't ignore chest pains. This is my advice as a recipient of 4 bypass' and luckily only minor damage to the heart.

I'm going to shout now. SEE THE DOC!!!!
1stsgt
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Posted: Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 02:11 PM UTC
Listen to us exp guys, OK we all love modeling very much, but life is the biggest mdoel you can every build and it is always changing.
blaster76
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Posted: Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 03:51 PM UTC
Here's a novel approach..... at 17 I sure hope you are spending time outside in physical activity. We used to call it playing in my day. If you do nothing all day but get up sit down to eat, sit and watch TV, sit down get on the computer, sit and work on models. Get the point?. I agree, get a quick check and OK from the doctor, God forbid it is an illness or ailment, Take the advice about venting or filtering the fumes. But please get out and enjoy your youth. Time aplenty for being an old fat man.
bytepilot
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Posted: Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 04:03 PM UTC
I have undergone the same symptoms as Faust. I used to have a strange feeling in my lungs once I sprayed paint, esp enamel paint thinned. The thinner seemed to be pretty corrosive, and I had pains in my lungs for about 2-3 days after.

So I quit using enamels, and am now using acrylics, but all the same, I still wear a mask.

BTW, I also smoke. That, on top of pollution here (in India) could also be causing the problem. Am planning to go for a checkup this weekend anyway..! It's not worth killing yourself over a model...

Cheers,
BP.
mikeli125
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Posted: Monday, August 04, 2003 - 01:34 AM UTC
hey byte pilot,
bet most of the pollution comes from those pesky super vijay 150 scooters
are there many still on the roads we are starting to see lots of them over here
for restoring boy they look like thev'e had a hard life
keenan
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Posted: Monday, August 04, 2003 - 02:23 AM UTC
Laquer thinner is +/- 70% toluene. Hit the link below for a PDF of the MSDS sheet for toluene. You really don't want to breathe this stuff repeatedly.

Shaun

http://www.burdickandjackson.com/BJMSDS/MSDS_PDF/TOLUENE.pdf

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